Ok, I only spent about 10 minutes poking around the DTP website, but my initial impression is that it's a hyperexpensive black-box system with more disclaimers than a package of contraceptives.

Now, y'all can flame away at me and let me know what I'm missing about this thing . . . . . . is anyone out there actually using it to make enough money to cover the monthly costs?

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Hi PTJ-

I've had my copy for about a week.  It is blackbox and self-described as complex.  Honestly, I have not had a chance to evaluate it and compare it to my present system.  This is a brand new product for us and we'll need to get some good feedback started.

Once I have more time to use DTP, I'll post more thoughts.

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Looking forward to your comments, Stork.  For something so expensive, it requires an enormous leap of faith and acceptance of a lot of the usual disclaimers ("it's going to cost you, bigtime, but we promise nothing") - it'll be useful to have some third-party comments and reviews out there.

If I were trying to market something like this, I'd keep the disclaimers intact for obvious reasons, but charge a sliding scale something like:

    - $89 for the first month, with a money-back guarantee (most of the month will be spent learning and playing anyway)

    - $129/month for the next 3 months

    - $250/month (full price) thereafter

Presumably, the 1-month risk-free trial and a few months of getting proficient with it would tell the customer whether it's worth it or not.  If it's really great and the user finds good value in it, $250/month isn't a big hurdle once it's proved its worth.

Have fun with it!

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When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed. - Ayn Rand

its the old question folks,

why would anybody with a great system go through all this nightmare of setting up and operating a software company when you could either run a hedge fund or join a hedge fund, in a time where the salaries of such people have skyrocketed?

A colleague of mine was doing quant modelling at a Swiss reinsurance company for quite some time and had developed an internal trading strategy based on volatilty arbitrage (don't ask me how it worked).  She got a call from a headhunter and a job at a London based hedge fund with £1 million BASE salary.


Currently, I am not sure anybody with a really great system would go and set up a software company. The economics are just so against this.

I would tend to agree with that interpretation. There are alot of Black Box systems out there and most are either too complex to be used on a daily basis or the system is just too expensive. I just spent the last several hours watching the training videos and I am not really sure if it is worth the cost. If I decide to try it, I will simply do the end-of-day version so that I can learn the software.

On the other hand, I definitely agree with their analysis that money rotates in and out of sectors and groups by hedge fiunds and mutual finds. It is clear that these large money managers can quickly light up a group of stocks if there is some economically fundamental reason to be buying into or selling a particular group. I follow that all the time. Watch the group rotations and you will make money just because of the momentum piling into or out of that group. These trades will usually last for several months. Follow the industry groups!!!! That is where the big money is.

So, if the Dynamic Trend software can find that or at least help one to identify a possible significant turning point in a group, then it will be worth the cost of admission. One or two good trades will pay for it.

I'll give it some more thought, but I am busy moving to CA. So, that will have to wait 2 months or so.